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Top 5 Fiberglass Pool Problems and Solutions

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By Jason Hughes

If you're considering the purchase of an inground fiberglass pool and done any research on the web, you've probably come in contact with some discussion of the problems associated with fiberglass pools.   The purpose of this article is to address, with full disclosure, five of the most common problems associated with fiberglass pools.....but we won't leave you there.  We'll also discuss the causes of these problems and how you, the consumer, can avoid them.  At River Pools and Spas in Virginia we have had the opportunity to install over 600 inground fiberglass pools.  Yes, that's a lot and No, every job did not go perfectly.  Because of our extensive experience, we have an intimate knowledge of the good, the bad, and the ugly of inground fiberglass pools.  Congratulations, now we can share this information with you in the hopes that you'll never end up on one of those online swimming pool forums asking "What the heck do I do?"

Problem #1:  Repairs on colored fiberglass pools

Colored fiberglass pools are gorgeous...there's no doubt about it, and most manufacturers now offer a variety of colors beyond the standard white and baby blue marine gel coat.  The problem is that the great majority of these manufacturers offer a pool color that is not repairable.  matching colorsAfter the fiberglass repair, the pool is structurally fine but the repairs simply stick out like a sore thumb.    This is, as Al Gore would say, a very inconvenient truth (please insert opinion of Al Gore here).  This is fine if you are fortunate enough to NEVER have a problem with your fiberglass swimming pool that requires a repair, but let's think about this logically for a second.  "Problems" with your fiberglass pool that would require a gelcoat repair can range anywhere from a rock flying up and hitting the pool during shipping to a massive structural crack.  Granted these instances are in the minority, but they do happen!  So you're probably asking "what's the solution?"  Well, we can't change the fact that some fiberglass pools are going to need repairs for one reason or another.  But what if there was a fiberglass pool manufacturer that offered a colored finish that was 100% repairable every time?  There is, and Leisure Pools USA (www.leisurepoolsusa.com) is that company.  Their exclusive Aquaguard gelcoat, which is light years above the competition, makes this seamless repair possible.  The problem with most colored fiberglass pool finishes is that they are applied in multiple coats.  This makes it virtually impossible to proportion the various layers during a field repair so they are consistent with the finish that was applied during manufacturing. It's a confusing process of mixing in metallic flake or color and praying that the repair will be acceptable to the customer.  Leisure's Aquaguard gelcoat is a simple one-coat application that matches(or at least comes very, very close) every time.  In fact the process is so simple that Leisure Pools actually trains their dealers to do any necessary repairs.  This is in stark contradiction to other pool manufactures who keep team after team of experienced fiberglass repair technicians on the road traveling the country making repairs that still look bad.  Look, I was highly skeptical at first, but after our first field repair I was an instant fan.  Leisure Pools Aquaguard gelcoat is the solution to the repair problem that plagued us for years.  We can finally sleep well at night knowing that we have a product that is fixable if any problem were to ever occur.  Whenever I offer my opinion to a customer with regards to a design question or any product that we sell, I always put myself in their shoes.  What would I do if this were my pool?  I'm telling you now that it is my honest opinion that any colored fiberglass pool finish other than Leisure's Aquaguard gelcoat is a gamble.  And if I'm making an investment of this magnitude, I'm not leaving anything to chance.   

PROBLEM:  Repairs on Colored Finishes Conspicuous

SOLUTION:  Leisure's Aquaguard gelcoat

 

Problem #2:  Spider Cracks in Gel coat

Spider cracks have always been the black mark on the face of the fiberglass pool industry.  They've always been accepted because, well, no product is perfect right?  But what exactly is a spider crack?  Spider cracks are hairline cracks that occur in the surface layer, or gel coat, of any fiberglass product. crack They are usually not structural in nature as the crack is normally only through the thin layer of gel coat and the structure of the pool is not affected.  The origin of the name spider crack stems from the manner in which some of the cracks begin in a center point and branch out like the spokes of a wheel.   But to fully address this issue, we need to address three questions:  What causes gel coat cracks?  What can be done to prevent them?  And is there a treatment for them once they occur?   

What causes gel coat cracks in fiberglass pools?

Gel coat spider cracks in fiberglass pools are a result of pressure on a given point of the pool shell that exceeds the gel coats ability to flex.   This pressure could be a result of improper shipping, improper manufacturing, or improper installation.  We've had pools by other manufacturers that were simply built too thin and couldn't withstand the pressures of lifting and shipping.  They arrived on the job site with gel coat cracks, and unfortunately, we had to send them back.  We've received pools that were built correctly but not stabilized properly during shipping with the same result.  But the most common human error that leads to gel coat cracks occurs during installation.  Sometimes a protrusion on the pool floor like a tree root or clump of dirt(neither should be there) exert enough pressure to cause a spider crack in the gel coat of the floor of the pool.  This occurs occasionally, but the most common cause of pressure on the floor of a fiberglass pool comes from the installer's attempts to level the pool shell.  Many times fiberglass pool installers are forced to attempt to level a pool shell that is 2"-3" out of level despite their best efforts to modify the base that the pool rests on.  This is done by lifting and tweaking the pool shell until they get it within a tolerable range.  This exerts a tremendous amount of pressure on the pool shell that sometimes results in gel coat cracks that happen immediately or eventually develop over time.  In reality, this problem stems from the pool manufacturer rather than the installer.

What can be done to prevent gel coat spider cracks in fiberglass pools?

So what's the solution?  Find a manufacturer that makes level pools and a reputable contractor who will perform a proper installation.  Leisure Pools uses all steel frame structures and laser level technology to produce the frames from which their pools are manufactured.  The steel doesn't warp over time like wood and the laser guarantees the product is spot on.  And spot on it is!  Our fiberglass installation crews love installing Leisure Pools.  They gloat that they are a "one set pool" every time.  This makes their life easy because they don't have to spend hours working on leveling the pool.  Better yet, less "tweaking" of the pool shell means less pressure on the gel coat and less spider cracks.  Finding a reputable installer is the other end of the equation.  At River Pools and Spas all of our customers, 600 and counting, are on our reference list.  We do provide quality installations, but don't take our word for it, ask our clients for yourself. 

 

Is there an acceptable way to repair gel coat spider cracks for fiberglass pool colored finishes?

You can repair any gel coat crack on any colored finish from any fiberglass pool manufacturer.  But the real question is "What will it look like?"  Unfortunately, it will likely be very conspicuous and probably look worse than the actual crack....unless your pool is a Leisure Fiberglass Pool.  Their exclusive Aquaguard gel coat guarantees a seamless repair every time.  Even though no company guarantees their product against gel coat spider cracks, it's good to know that in the unlikely event that one would develop in a Leisure Pool, you could have it repaired and the pool would be without blemish.   

PROBLEM:  Spider cracks in gel coat

SOLUTION:  Find a well manufactured pool, a great installer, and a repairable gel coat.

 

Problem #3:  Pool Walls bulging

If you talk to enough people or scroll through enough on line forums you'll probably come across someone who has developed a bulge in the wall of their fiberglass pool.bulging walls  We encountered this problem years ago with several of our pools.  This caused us to scrutinize our installation process and thoroughly inspect the pools where these problems occurred.  What we found flies in the face of the standard and accepted method of installing fiberglass pools across the country.  The problem in our case stemmed from the backfill material that we used.....namely sand. 

Tens of thousands of fiberglass pools have been installed with sand backfill without incident, and most of our sand backfilled pools were fine as well.  But when the right (or wrong) combination of circumstances align fiberglass pool walls do bulge.  Question:  What happens to sand when it becomes saturated with water?  It liquefies.  That would be fine if the liquefied sand were resting against something other than fiberglass which is renowned for its flexibility.   Fiberglass pools are structurally engineered to remain full of water.  The outward pressure from the water works in conjunction with the structure of the pool to stabilize the vessel.  When sand liquefies it is heavier than the water on the inside of the pool and if the wall is not strong enough to maintain its shape a bulge develops.  High water tables as well as soils that hold water both lead to situations where a significant amount of water surrounds the pool structure and saturates the backfill material.  So does this mean that fiberglass pools are not suitable for installations with high water table or certain soils?  Quite the contrary; I would submit that there is no better pool to have in such circumstances.  You just need to make certain of two things.  First, that you're pool is strong enough to prevent bulges.  And second, that you eliminate the sand backfill and use gravel.  Is there a difference between the strength of fiberglass pools?  Yes, but from the perspective of the consumer it will be virtually impossible to rate the "bulge-ability" of the various pools on the market because all manufacturers claim to be the strongest and most stable.  The one thing you CAN control is the backfill material, and based on our experience, using gravel backfill is the only insurance against wall bulges in any situation with any pool.   Clean crushed blue stone ¾" or smaller is the gravel used in our installations because it has several distinct advantages over sand or even round pea gravel.  First, its properties do not change when it becomes saturated with water so it performs the same wet or dry.  This makes it ideal for any situation and especially in areas with a high water table or difficult soil conditions.  Second, the point on point friction that occurs between the pieces of gravel make it a very stable material on the sides of the pool; much better than saturated sand that liquefies or pea gravel that acts like little ball bearings.    Third, the gravel compacts upon placement unlike sand which needs to be placed in lifts and compacted with water.  This is further addressed in the discussion on plumbing problems below.  You will see that this is a major advantage as well.  Opponents to gravel backfill pitch against it by saying that it's a cheaper material and used in order to cut cost.  In reality it actually costs us significantly more to use gravel.  We feel it is well worth the investment because you can't put a price tag on peace of mind. 

PROBLEM:  Pool walls bulging

SOLUTION:  Gravel backfill

 

Problem #4:  Fading of Colored Fiberglass Pool Finishes

Yes, another gelcoat problem!  Are you seeing a trend?  Before we jump into the fading issue....why do you think 3 of the 5 most common problems with fiberglass pools are gelcoat issues?  The answer is "Because that's what you see!"  Most, not all, but most fiberglass pools are structurally sound and will remain so for a long time.  But the look of the pool is equally as important.  Who wants a pool that looks bad after 5 years?  Not me!  Unfortunately, fading IS a problem Fading colorswith most colored fiberglass pool finishes.  Some fade more than others, but this is understandable.  If you made me stand in the sun eight months of the year and in full contact with chlorinated water I'd probably change color a little bit too.  No one said this stuff was easy!  Fortunately you are not necessarily condemned to a lifetime sentence of faded pool.  Leisure Pool's Aquaguard gel coat saves the day yet again.  The stuff is like liquid gold!  It's not only repairable and crack resistant, but it also resists fading.  THIS IS NOT MY OPINION, THIS IS A FACT!  Test results show that the Aquaguard gel coat has a superior ability to resist fading.  This is backed up by Leisure Pool's mind blowing 10 year warranty on their finish that guarantees the color will not fade.  Don't take my word for it, research it for yourself.

PROBLEM:  Fading of Colored Finish                       

SOLUTION:  Leisure's Aquaguard gelcoat        

 

Problem #5:  Plumbing Settling causing Leaks

Why would the plumbing settle?  Good question!  The plumbing doesn't settle, the backfill material around the fiberglass pool settles and takes the plumbing with it.  Yes we're back to our sand vs. gravel discussion again.  This is great because this is a topic that needs attention.  The problem is that it's very difficult to fully compact sand around a fiberglass pool during installation.  Many times, despite a fiberglass pool installer's best efforts to bring the sand up in 6"-12" lifts and fully saturate the sand with water, the sand still settles some over time.  The plumbing is encased in this sand and as the sand settles, it exerts downward pressure on the plumbing of the swimming pool.  Many installers tie their plumbing up to help hold it in place, but not withstanding, that's still a lot of pressure.  Settled plumbing manifests itself in one way....leaks.  "Leak" is a dirty word!  We want to avoid saying that word, and we do so by using gravel backfill that just doesn't settle!  If the backfill doesn't move, the plumbing doesn't move.  It's as simple as that!

PROBLEM:  Leaks from settled plumbing

SOLUTION:  Gravel backfill

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It's not mere coincidence that we have legitimate solutions to the top 5 problems associated with fiberglass pools.  At River Pools and Spas we constantly scrutinize our products and processes to eliminate any potential problems and make life easier for everyone.  You want to enjoy a problem free pool for years to come and it is our goal to make that a reality.  For more information about inground fiberglass pools visit www.riverpoolsandspas.com  and www.PoolSchool.us

Comments

This is one of the most informable things I have read on the internet about fiberglass pools. Thank You
Posted @ Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:38 PM by Jim
Help please anyone......have been quoted for fibreglass pool but due to space they have said they can cut the pool in half & just rejoin it??? Wondering whether this is a normal or regular practice? 
 
Posted @ Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:27 AM by Suzanne Goodall
Hi Suzanne, I don't know that I would call that normal, but it's certainly possible. Give me a call on my cell at 804.761.2184 and we can discuss it. Jason
Posted @ Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:03 AM by Jason
We have a fiberglass pool and are living with and itchy patchy rash. We have changed it to salt but some people tell us the fiberglass can be leaking in the pool to cause this. Have you had or know of any problems like this??
Posted @ Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:19 AM by Jean Gaither
I am considering a fiberglass pool in my back yard as opposed to a concrete pool that is obviously more expensive, however I don't want to trade expense for problems. 
 
The comment about the itching concerns me, and I have heard tales of the fiberglass pools actually coming out of the ground in a bad storm or hurricane. Since I live in a hurricane prone zone, (Fort Lauderdale), this is a big concern. Can anyone help me?
Posted @ Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:58 PM by Matt
Hi Matt, and thanks for taking the time to ask this question. Regarding itching, I would venture to say that the pool being referred to is an older fiberglass pool with inferior materials used in the pool's construction. In the roughly 600 pools we've installed, we've not received this complaint one time, so I think you can be rest assured that a modern fiberglass pool will not have this issue. In terms of floating, you'll see a pop-ups section to this blog but there is one thing that most people do not understand when it comes to pool pop ups: A concrete pool can pop up out of the ground just as easily as a fiberglass pool can. Any honest person with any knowledge of the industry will confirm this. The way to deal with it is by making sure your deck is cantilevered concrete, which means that if the pools is going to move, it has to take the whole concrete deck with it. We've had fibeglass pools before completely submersed in water that were fine and this is because of cantilevered concrete decking. Also, just as a concrete pool can have a hydrostatic relief valve, so can a fiberglass pool....So good luck Matt and fear not my friend!!
Posted @ Friday, August 28, 2009 10:37 PM by Marcus Sheridan
Can a fiberglass swimming pool shed? If so, is it harmful to swimmers? Have any studies been done regarding health/safety of fiberglass pools?
Posted @ Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:44 AM by Claudia
Hi Claudia, I’m not sure I know what you mean by “shed”, but there’s nothing that should deliminate or wear off of the surface of the pool. You may have seen fiberglass products like older storage tanks without a gel coat layer where the roven material on the outside has somewhat frayed. This would never happen on a fiberglass pool because the surface that comes in contact with the swimmer is coated with a marine gel coat or other coating product that will never wear off.  
 
There have been no studies that I’m aware of that have shown fiberglass pools to have adverse health effects and they are certainly as safe as any other type of pool.  
 
Thanks for the question!
Posted @ Monday, September 21, 2009 7:10 AM by Jason Hughes
I just bought a home that has a fiberglass pool in the back yard. I noticed that on of the sides of the pool is bulging in what if anything can I do about this please help thanks.
Posted @ Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:53 AM by Damian
Thanks for the question Damian. Just out of curiosity, what shape is the pool and how deep is it? You don't by chance have a leak do you? Has the bulge been there for a while or is it steady getting worse? We've seen cases where bulges go in and out, much of which depends on the ground water. If it doesn't seem to be getting worse, I wouldn't be too concerned. Do you know the name brand of the pool? Don't hesitate to send us a pic and we'll give it a look. Thanks!
Posted @ Friday, October 09, 2009 8:34 AM by Marcus Sheridan
Hi, I am wondering if kidney shaped fiberglass pools are structurally stronger and less likely to bulge? I am looking at buying a house that already has one installed and I'd prefer not to have too many issues later on down the track! Cheers!
Posted @ Monday, October 19, 2009 6:03 PM by Luke
Hello Luke and thanks for the question. Yes, a kidney shape, because of its curves, is typically stronger than most straight wall fiberglass pools. Notwithstanding, if the pool was installed properly, whether it be a straight or curved wall pool, I would not hesitate to have confidence regardng its structural integrity. But good luck with your purchase and cheers to you as well!!
Posted @ Monday, October 19, 2009 11:15 PM by Marcus Sheridan
I am considering buying a property with a damaged fiberglass pool. the pool is empty and there is a major crack in the bottom, the crack is about the size of a brick and goes through the fiberglass completly (thus no water).  
 
 
 
 
 
is this sort of damage fixable, and if so how much am I looking at? or is the pool total loss?
Posted @ Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:09 AM by steve
Thanks for the post Steve. You have an interesting situation. In most cases, such a pool could be repaired without too much difficulty. My questions, though, would be: How did the crack form? What color is the pool? Do you know who the manufacturer is? Let me know and we'll go from there. Thanks!
Posted @ Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:24 AM by Marcus Sheridan
the pool was placed in '05 and is a light blue color. it appears to be in good shape except for the one damage spot. I am guessing the spot buckled once the pool was left drained (that or someone dropped a brick into it). I do not kow the manufacturer of the pool. This is a foreclosure, so it is possible the pool was drained to save on maitenence on running the pool filter, and the damage occured during the months that it has lain empty.
Posted @ Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:03 AM by Steve
This doesn't sound too bad Steve. I think you are right with your presumption that the floor buckled. I would suggest you consider a fiberglass repair person, like someone who does tubs or boats, to come in and fix it. You may also want to pressure test the lines to make sure there are no leaks, but it's likely that this is all due to someone who made a dumb move and drained the pool...The fact that the color is a light blue will only work in your favor because the patch won't stand out too badly.
Posted @ Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:10 AM by Marcus Sheridan
I have an inground pool that was an original gunnite and plaster. I had it refinished to fiberglass in 2000. The tile job was terrible and all of the tiles in the spa came out letting the water get in under the fiberglass so it has buckled, which should be under warranty. Also the gel coat has come off the pool causing the terrible itching to swimmers that others have talked about. I am looking for someone in my area (Southern California) who could give me a quote to do the repair.
Posted @ Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:39 PM by Bernice Olsen
Thanks for the question Bernice and sorry you are having these issues. Fiberglass coatings are not our forte, so unfortunately we are not able to address your concerns. We have checked around to find a reputable contractor in your area but to no avail. I would reccomend doing a google search for fibertech dealer in Southern California. Good luck and sorry we couldn't be of more assistance.
Posted @ Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:03 AM by Jason Hughes
I'm in the process of installing a fiberglass spa. It's considerablely smaller than a pool (obviously). The installer is using a sand and it's being put on a concrete pad (sand between pad and spa). The concrete pad is very secure with pillars dug down below the frost line (we live in Canada). My worry is frost between the spa and concrete pad. Is this a legitimate worry if the spa is running year round? What about if it isn't? Thanks.
Posted @ Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:13 PM by Mark Benaroia
Like to convert from vinyl to fibreglass kidneys shape 30 X 19 5-6 at deep end and 3' at shallow. Recomend dealer in Austin. Inground pool
Posted @ Monday, November 16, 2009 8:00 PM by George
Hi George, and thanks for checking in. Because you live in Austin, I think your best bet would be to contact Leisure Pools directly, as they are only about 1 hour away, and they might do the install themselves. Their number is 8303874020........Good luck!
Posted @ Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:29 PM by Marcus Sheridan
I am looking at buying a house with a fiberglass pool in the backyard. The house is bank owned so needless to say the pool is in bad shape. It is drained and the pool has pulled away from the ground on both sides and has bulged out on one side. Is there anything we can do about it or is the pool shot?
Posted @ Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:16 AM by Johnny
Johnny, the pool is most likely repairable, but the expenses could be considerable. Email me at riverpoolsjason@gmail.com if you want to talk further and I'll see what we can do to better assess the situation. Thanks.
Posted @ Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:35 PM by Jason
I have a 6 year old fiberglass pool and every time I brush down the sides and bottom I get a milky seemingly powder like substance everywhere. I take water samples for testing and the chemicals are correct. They have no idea how to correct the problem. I've called the pool manufacturer and they could only say the chemicals must not be right. That it's not a gel coat issue because that comes off like paint chips. When cleaning the pool filter it looks like eggnog pouring out. Help please.
Posted @ Monday, February 15, 2010 2:14 PM by Sharon
Hi Sharon, and sorry you're having these problems. My first question would be who is the manufacturer? Also, what do you use as your sanitizer? (salt, chlorine, baqua) You can email me directly if you'd like. Thanks.
Posted @ Monday, February 15, 2010 3:04 PM by Marcus Sheridan
Hi Marcus. Blue Hawaiian is the manufacturer and I changed to salt last year. The problem started before the change. Thanks for your help.
Posted @ Monday, February 15, 2010 7:24 PM by Sharon
That's really odd Sharon...I'm assuming it's a white pool, correct? Are the flakes visible? Could you send us a digital photo, we'd love to take a look.
Posted @ Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:08 PM by Marcus Sheridan
Yes, it's a white pool. When you touch the sides or bottom it looks like you cleaned a chalk board with your hand. nasty. I will send a pic if you'll tell me how I can email it directly. I'm really anxious to resolve this problem. Thanks.
Posted @ Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:49 PM by Sharon
Sorry - no there are no flakes. It looks like a powder. Very odd.
Posted @ Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:51 PM by Sharon
Could the gel coat be oxidizing? I have a white pool thats doing exactly the same thing. I'm using regular chlorine.
Posted @ Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:42 PM by Luke
Sharon,  
Marc and I have done some asking around regarding your gel coat chalking problem and here's what Howard Guidry, the plant manager of Leisure Pools USA had to say on the matter: 
 
"...gel coat chalking is mostly do to QC control in the manufacturing plant. The most common reason is the gel coat operator. The spray equipment must be calibrated once a week. If the gel coat is under or over catalyzed it will start to chalk or yellow. Another reason is ambient temperature. The spray booth should be no less than 60 to 95 degrees to get the proper cure." 
 
That sounds like it could be the culprit Sharon. Now the obvious question is that if this is indeed the problem what can be done to fix it? I'll see what we can come up with for you there.  
Let me know if you have any other questions in the mean time,  
Jason
Posted @ Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:15 PM by Jason Hughes
Thanks Jason. I hope this will help Luke as well. I also hope it's not a big fix, but I'll deal with that as it comes.
Posted @ Friday, February 19, 2010 9:24 AM by Sharon
WE LIVE IN EAST TEXAS AND ARE CONSIDERING A FIBERGLASS POOL BY LEISURE POOLS. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY SEVERAL POOL COMPANIES IN OUR AREA THAT THE ALKALINE SOIL IN EAST TEXAS WILL CORRODE THE OUTSIDE OF THE POOL SHELL AND WE WILL BE DOING REPAIRS TO THE POOL IN A FEW YEARS. IS THIS CORRECT? HAVE YOU SEEN ANY FIBERGLASS POOLS BEING "EATEN" ON THE OUTSIDE BY CORROSIVE GROUNDWATER?
Posted @ Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:51 PM by PAT RANSON
Hi Pat, and thanks for stopping by. You know, I've heard some crazy fiberglass myths in my days, but this one might take the cake. The short answer to your question is NO. Not a chance. In fact, the same resins and construction used in building a Leisure shell is the same they use for underground gasoline tanks...all over the country. (Underground gas tanks can't be metal due to oxidation, and they need to last forever). So to make a long story short Pat, I would discount anyone that told you such information as either really dishonest or extremely misinformed. I'd also be tempted to have the person show you just 1 pool where this anomaly occurred. Good luck with your pool Pat!
Posted @ Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:56 PM by Marcus Sheridan
We have a clover shape fiberglass plunge pool and which is about 3 years old a few months ago about 5 cracks appeared at the base of the one of the stairs on the floor which follow the shape around. They are not getting any bigger but seem to be more noticeable as time goes on. Now it is starting to happen on the opposite side in the same fashion. these cracks can't be felt. 
Can you give an explanation as to what might be happening and what to do as this is a great concern. 
Regards
Posted @ Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:30 PM by ben priest
Hi Ben and thanks for stopping by. I'm sorry you're having this problem with your pool. It appears you have spider cracking in your gelcoat, which is a NON-structural issue. In other words, this won't affect the pool's ability to hold water, but it may get worse over time. This can happen due to a variety of reasons, such as the shell settling, the gelcoat was applied improperly, or maybe it's just a poor quality shell. But again, it sounds like your case will only be an aesthetic issue. Best of luck to you Ben.
Posted @ Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:04 PM by Marcus Sheridan
I have an old fiberglas pool approx 25 - 30 yrs old. Pool is still functional, has no leaks, but is stained in the bottom. What is the best solution this problem?
Posted @ Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:45 AM by Joy Faulks
Hi Joy, and thanks for stopping by. White pools tend to have staining issues over time, and it's caused by a variety of factors. Worst case scenario is that you'll have to re gel coat the pool. Best case is that a simple stain remover (which is typically a Vitamin C powder) is poured on top of the problem area. Have you tried any stain remover?
Posted @ Friday, March 12, 2010 12:58 PM by Marcus Sheridan
My pool is aqua in color. The stains are a rusty brown color. I use Baquacil pool products with no chlorine. I consulted last year with my local pool supplier. I was told that the vitamin C cannot be used in a Baquacil pool. Have you seen results in this type situation?
Posted @ Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:51 PM by Joy Faulks
I did treat the pool twice with a stain removing product recommended by my local supplier which was a product made by Baquacil. There was no change. With a sharp object, I can scrape a small amount of the stain off. I am reluctant to scrape hard enough to remove the stain as I fear I will damage the old fiberglas.
Posted @ Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:54 PM by Joy Faulks
Hi . We have a fiberglass pool, about 2-3 years old, and since Nov it has been leaking. Unfortunately it's in Turks and Caicos, so we can't hire a professional leak detecter guy. We've tried the dye, pressure, pump on and off, some of the pipes. Keep resealing it, didn't work. Looked at skimmers, can't find anything. It won't leak for a week, then in 1 day leak 2 inches! Any ideas as to figure it out?
Posted @ Monday, March 29, 2010 10:25 PM by Ramona Settle
Golly Ramona, sounds like you've tried just about everything, and the fact that it hasn't a set pattern really makes your problem confusing. How long has it been leaking? Is the pool open year round or do you close it ever? Has it leaked past the skimmer?
Posted @ Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:49 PM by Marcus Sheridan
Hi Marcus, 
 
 
 
The man who installed it was going to call the company for ideas. It usually stops at the bottom of the skimmer-but that's been changed and fixed too. Someone suggested that the hydrolic valve might work too well? or might have sand in it (although they just replaced that too) maybe after it rains, it wants to drain out too much? Pool has been leaking off and on since Dec. It never rains in T&C, except this year has been unusually wet. The pool is open year round, it's never been closed. 2 hurricanes did hit in Oct. 2008, but leaks just started in Dec. Thanks for asking!
Posted @ Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:22 PM by Ramona Settle
WE are just sick...had aloha pool placed at beginning of Oct 08.....On May 13th...pool came out of ground after connecting our automatic vacumn...I caught it about 2hours and turned off pump.....contacted the girl who sold the pool and her dad installed it...she was here within 30 min....oh daddy has insurance blah blah...next day dad came out and stated....IT WAS THE WATER TABLE....pool was full prior to pipe breaking from pool vac returning the water back under the pool....now here we are another summer with a jacked up pool...that I paid CASH for...I do not know where to turn
Posted @ Monday, April 12, 2010 11:46 AM by debra brockelbank
Very, very sorry to hear of your problem Debra. You should email some photos and maybe some more details, as I'd be happy to help. 
 
riverpoolsmarc@gmail.com
Posted @ Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:25 PM by Marcus Sheridan
we are in the process of buying a house with a an 8 shaped fiberglass pool. the pool has been left sitting ,with water in it , for a few years. it seems to be in great shape and put in well, however it is leaking and everyone tells us that is probably from the plumbing freezing and bursting, is this common and is painting really a bad idea> everyone says that if you paint you will always be painting it. thank you
Posted @ Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:04 PM by tommy bowling
Hi Tommy, and thanks for the inquiry. In general, painting a fiberglass pool is a bad idea and can just lead to more and more work down the road. The best way to fix a surface is to re-gel coat it, but that is expensive and there aren't many companies that offer the service....And yes, there is a good chance the leak is in the plumbing, which is why you should have someone pressure test the lines to isolate the problem area. Best of luck to you.
Posted @ Monday, April 26, 2010 8:49 AM by Marcus Sheridan
We purchased a house last year with an approx 20 year old fiberglass pool. Our pool inspector told us he would be able to fix the cracks in the coping but has backed out of the work. We've had trouble finding someone to do the work in our area but have finally found someone who is interested but just learning about it. He indicated that he had to analyse the fiberglass from our pool brand (an out of business local company) to determine the gel coat needed. Is this correct? Also, we have a bit of bulging at one end of the pool that isn't changing. We need to replace our badly cracked concrete deck which is causing the cracks in the coping. If we dig down in that area, relieve the pressure and replace the sand with gravel, will the bulge go away? Thank you!
Posted @ Monday, May 03, 2010 12:43 PM by Victoria
I recently purchased a home with a kidney shaoed pool. I have noticed many circular bumps on the bottom and sides of the pool.  
 
There are rust spots on most of them. Could tell me what these bumps might be caused from.
Posted @ Monday, May 03, 2010 4:02 PM by Pat Tosi
My pool got fixed. The dye found a minuscule crack around the light fixture. Thanks for trying to help and your support!
Posted @ Monday, May 03, 2010 6:23 PM by Ramona
@ Victoria: If you do go through the efforts of replacing your patio then yes, the bulge should come out of the pool. My concern though in your case Victoria is the fact that the pool is so old (fiberglass pools are much, much better today than 20 years ago) the plumbing and pool structure may be quite sub par by this point, and not necessarily worth what you're going to put into it. Then again, the structure might be in great shape. You're welcome to send me some photos.... 
 
@Pat---It sounds like you may have metal in your water. Have you ever had it checked at a pool store? Stain removers can work very well.
Posted @ Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:09 AM by Marcus Sheridan
We bought a house that is about twenty years old. The past week we have had an oil slick on the top of the pool. We added Suncoast Natural Oil and Scum Remover yesterday. The oil disapeared, but is back tonight. Help
Posted @ Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:49 PM by Connie
do you work for leisure pools???
Posted @ Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:02 PM by sandy
I also am having chalking on the sides of my pool , milky white, San Jaun says dont worry your pool gelcoat is 32 ml thick , what the heck is going on, How many years do I have left the pool is 7 years old thanks Joe feom Chicago
Posted @ Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:27 PM by joe
@Sandy--We clearly do not work for Leisure Pools. We just happen to have a lot of experience with their product, as well as other manufacturers. 
 
@Joe-- Sorry for your problems Joe. Yeah, 7 years is pretty fast. What type of chemicals are you using? 
 
@Connie-- Oil slicks on pools are usually a byproduct of using a cheap algaecide, and using too much of it. Have you added algaecide recently?
Posted @ Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:47 AM by Marcus Sheridan
Thank for the reply , I have a salt water generater , Water is check weekly, I only use shock when I close up the pool in the winter. CH is at 198,total Alk is 117 total dissoved solids is at 0 P.H 7.7
Posted @ Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:09 PM by joe
Hi Marcus, I found this site and it seems to be the forerunner on information relating to fiberglass pools. My question is this, I live in Ontario Canada. The winter is harsh and as a result a pool is opened and closed every year. Fiberglass is not very common around my home town (Mount Albert near Newmarket) so I am wondering if it is due to the climate. Any information you could provide would be accepted with thanks. 
 
 
 
Respectfully. 
 
 
 
Andy Graham
Posted @ Monday, May 24, 2010 6:27 PM by Andy Graham
Andy,  
 
Great question! Fiberglass pools have yet to infiltrate certain regions of the Northern US and most of Canada, but not because of the climate. It's simply a result of certain regions being slow to change....and those regions are typically dominated by vinyl liners. A fiberglass pool will perform perfectly in your area. Perhaps you should pioneer the effort in Mount Albert.  
Good Luck,  
 
Jason
Posted @ Monday, May 24, 2010 6:48 PM by Jason
I am looking into getting a fiberglass pool in north Texas but I keep reading that they may "pop" out of the ground during our rainy season. Have you heard anything like this?
Posted @ Monday, May 31, 2010 7:36 AM by David
In regard to: (Posted @ Monday, February 15, 2010 2:14 PM by Sharon) Marcus, we have the same problen (exactly) as Sharon, with the exception of the fact that our pool is 20yrs old as opposed to 6yrs. Blue Hawaiian is the manufacturer. What is the solution to the milky white film (gel-coat oxidation)? Thanks in advance....Doris
Posted @ Monday, May 31, 2010 11:58 AM by Doris Pouliot
just bought a house with a fiberglass pool.The pool is about ten years old and I'm noticing blisters on the side walls most are silver dollar sized some smaller i pressed on them they seem to hard is this a concern or is normal.
Posted @ Monday, May 31, 2010 4:57 PM by Boggie
@Doris: Sorry you're having this problem. Frankly, I've not been getting great feedback around the country regarding Blue Hawaiian's gel coats these days. With their 1 year warranty though, you really have no recourse, hopefully it won't get a lot worse. Sorry :( 
 
@Boggie: Sounds like a cheap finish to the pool Boggie. Do you know the manufacturer. Blisters are very rare with most manufacturers today, but older pools did have this problem. It's not structural though, only aesthetic. 
 
***Note to all, the problems people are mentioning here go back to quality control by the manufacturers. This is why we talk so much about companies like Leisure on this blog because they simply aren't using inferior products to coat their fiberglass pools. I feel for everyone who is having problems and hope that new consumers will now have a resource through this blog to learn the facts. 
 
 
Posted @ Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:46 AM by Marcus Sheridan
@David: I'd suggest reading some of the articles we've written on this site regarding 'pop ups' David. It sounds like you've been talking with too many concrete pool dealers, which is understandable considering you're in Texas. Notwithstanding, this certainly should NOT be a problem at all if the pool is built properly.
Posted @ Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:48 AM by Marcus Sheridan
My fiberglass pool has a large bump at the bottom of the shallow end. It feels like a speed bump. Also the decline on the deep end and turned into a slight incline before it takes you deeper. This winter the ground was frozen for about 30 days in Virginia. Do you think the ground underneath the pool shifted?
Posted @ Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:07 PM by Jesse
@Jesse: Yes, it does sound like you've had some movement, but I doubt it was a direct result of the weather.
Posted @ Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:20 PM by Marcus Sheridan
I have a blue coloured fibreglass pool 18 months old. Entire vertical surfaces are discolouring as though the paint is dripping down the walls. The floor, steps and horozontal areas are fine. Have used stain remover to no avail. Manufacturer is not being helpful.  
 
Any ideas?
Posted @ Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:39 AM by julie
I've chalking on the sides of my San Juan pool (white). What is causing this?
Posted @ Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:31 PM by Gary
We have a 4.5 year old fiberglass pool (by Royal Pools). Each year we have the company which installed it also winterize it as they guarantee it not to freeze. Last week when my husband took off the cover he noticed the water level was very low, there was also a 4 foot crack in the bottom of the pool (the gravel was pushed through the crack) and the sides of our pool are now bowed. When the owner of the company came out to take a look at it, he said that the main drain had frozen and cracked. He stated that the water that was in the pool leaked under it causing hydrostatic pressure, resuling in the crack and bulging sides. He also said they never put antifreeze in the main drain because it is low enough to not freeze. My question is - whose fault is this? The owner first said they would take care of it, - but they may need to get their insurance company involved. Now, a week later he states that this is not covered under the manufacturers warantee and not really covered by them either. He said they can patch it and plug the drain. Today we talked to them again, he said that it is possible that termites ate through the drain pipe which could have also caused our problem, our house is only 4.5 years old and as far as I know no one around us has termites (I did not know termites ate plastic). We are beginning to feel as though we are getting the shaft. Is this a common problem in fiberglass pools and is this a sensable resolution to the problem??? What would you recommend in a situation like this? Please help!!!
Posted @ Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:42 PM by Tami
@Julie- Sorry you're having this problem so soon Julie. Stain remover won't do anything if it's a gelcoat issue (fading). I'm curious, who is the manufacturer? You may have a finish warranty claim. 
 
@Gary- Not the first person by any stretch to have this problem with a white fiberglass pool Gary, but such a problem usually happened on the older pools after the 12-15 year mark. It's not structural but it's a pain. How old is the pool? 
 
@Tami- Wow, so sorry this happened to you Tami. Sounds like you all have clearly identified how this happened, now it's just a question of 'who' is responsible. Frankly, I'd think you'd have recourse if the service company that closed it guaranteed that it wouldn't freeze. It's clearly not Royal's fault,as any pool could rupture with such hydrostatic pressure. Best of luck to you getting this resolved and email me directly if you need to.
Posted @ Friday, June 04, 2010 4:14 PM by Marcus Sheridan
I have a San Juan 8 l/2 foot diving pool 15 by 32 installed in 1983, Pool has shifted to one side in deep end and gel coat has patches of brown where it has worn off. Would it be worth the money to recoat it and I don't think it would be possible to reposition it due to fact that large crane put it in and now there is no room in yard. Pool works fine just cosmetic problem.
Posted @ Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:42 PM by Margaret.Tomlin
What is the chalking is it or is it not the gel coat eroding away, the company says it not ( san Jaun) The said its a chemical deposit, and said if it was the pool gelcoat is 32ml thick and not to worry?
Posted @ Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:59 PM by joe
Many of you have asked about 'chalking' recently with fiberglass pools. This is typically an issue with older 'white' pools, or even light blue, and the reason, if you're looking for a scientific answer, is as follows: 
 
The dusting is caused by titanium dioxide that is coming off the etched pool surfaces. This is caused by prolonged exposure of the pool surfaces to aggressive water conditions. Examples: low PH, low alkalinity, high PH, & high alkalinity. While this typically takes years to occur, unless the gel coat is old when sprayed on: problems can occur with plaster/mar cite under the same conditions in a matter of weeks or even less. 
This product is in ALL gel coats except clear. It is also used in tooth paste, deodorants, paints of all types & is obviously NON-TOXIC. 
It is a nuisance to water clarity. The only long term solution is the resurfacing of the pool. 
 
Hope this offers a little clarity to the subject, as I'll likely be writing a blog on it soon.
Posted @ Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:59 PM by Marcus Sheridan
@Margaret: If it's cosmetic, it's likely worth the fix.
Posted @ Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:00 PM by Marcus Sheridan
We are considering a fiberglass pool but are concerned about our 105lb Golden Retreiver scratching the steps getting in and out of the pool. How easy does the gelcoat scratch?
Posted @ Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:26 PM by Paul Heinrich
We've done many, many pools for dog owners like yourself Paul without incident, so this should not be a problem.
Posted @ Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:52 PM by Marcus Sheridan
I read the responses to the white powdery substance on a fiberglass pool. Was the only solution to resurface the pool. I did not have any problems with my pool last year and now this year I am battling the powder issue. Is there any other causes other than the gelcoat. 
 
 
 
Posted @ Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:54 PM by Jeff
Hi: Please help. The fiberglass pool I have gets yellow. I put stain remover purchased at Pinch a penny and it clears, but comes back in couple of weeks. Is there anything else I may use in place of the stain remover? 
 
Thank you for your help. 
 
Persida
Posted @ Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:55 PM by Persida Figueroa
We had both a pool and spa from leisure pools. The pool arrived with a scrape along the lower step which after a week now just sitting in the hole we are told by someone there to just sand it down. We now find a spider crack at the upper edge of the spa about 2 inches long. Our contractor is sending pictures now to get them to send a repair kit or whatever they tell us to do. Meanwhile it has been a week, in the sun, growing mosquitoes. We can't backfill the hole or put much water in until the repairs are done. I am frustrated trying to deal with a company so far away. We are reasonable people but this is getting ridiculous. I am beginning to wish I had gone with gunite.
Posted @ Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:43 PM by karen Maier-Anderson
@Jeff-- Sorry, but it sounds like the gelcoat is wearing down. How old is the pool? Remember, this isn't a harmful or structural thing....but it can be a cloudy pain in the but. What chemicals are you using? 
 
@Persida-- Do you have metals by any chance in your water?? Have you gotten it tested? 
 
@Karen-- Sorry you are having a few problems Karen, but to be honest with you it sounds like they are short term frustrations, but long term it should end up just fine. Unfortunately, things can happen in shipping to a pool. But things can happen when building any type of pool. What has happened to you up to this point isn't a reflection of fiberglass vs concrete, and you shouldn't turn it into that. You've made a good decision. I'm sure it will be better very soon and then you'll have years and years to enjoy the pool. Best of luck to you with the project and try to keep smiling.
Posted @ Friday, July 02, 2010 1:46 PM by Marcus Sheridan
Hi. I am thinking about getting a fiberglass pool and the Leisure Pool contractor said that Leisure Pools have a better warranty and their materials are superior and that's why they are more expensive. Is this true?
Posted @ Friday, July 02, 2010 8:00 PM by suzan pechinko
Hi Suzan, and thanks for stopping by. As for the cost of Leisure vs other manufacturers, it is hard to say. I can tell you though that Leisure makes, without a question, one top one or two pools in the entire industry. I base that opinion on my work with other manufacturers and also builder/homeowner feedback I get all over North America. 
 
Best of luck to you in this project.
Posted @ Friday, July 02, 2010 8:53 PM by Marcus Sheridan
Hi, I am looking at buying a new Viking pool that has been sitting on display for 5 plus years in the elements of the northeast weather thru all of the seasons without the pool being covered. It has upgrades like fiber optic lighting, mosaic tile and built in jucuzzi as well.Is there anything we should be concerned with, fading any fictures like the jets, filter etc. that we should be concerned about as well as the finish and the fiberglass due to sitting out in the weather on display and not in the ground with water in it. The areas like the jets, trim around the fiberoptic lighting and the filter paddle area seem to be discolored yellowish and a major concern would be the pool itself and or the fictures being dried out and is it possible that they would become weaker that could cause issues after installation
Posted @ Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:25 AM by Joe Caka
Hi Joe, and thanks for stopping by. I'd request new plumbing fixtures if I were you. 5 years is a good amount of time, so new return fitting, skimmer, main drains, etc would be a good idea. You should also find out what the warranty on the pool is. Does it start from when you buy it, or did it start 5 years ago? Best.......
Posted @ Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:02 AM by Marcus Sheridan
First, all of your comments here are extremely useful. We have a fiberglass in-ground pool that started showing bubbles this year, and the bubbles now have some small rough pits as well. We think it may be the result of an extraordinarily wet season last year as your comments above suggest. Can something like this be repaired? There are quite a few of them all around the pool now and we want to do the right thing in terms of addressing the problem right away. Thanks for any feedback.
Posted @ Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:45 PM by Linda Boynton
Linda,  
Thanks for the compliment!  
It sounds like your pool has osmotic blisters. They are purely cosmetic and yes they can be repaired. Good Luck!
Posted @ Monday, July 12, 2010 5:08 AM by Jason Hughes
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